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Comments in the Scalzi Post - Kindle Worlds
A friend pulled together quotes she found interesting in the comments to Scalzi's discussion of Amazon's Kindle Worlds.

"Kind of hard to let one’s lizard brain roam free when you’re worried about producers and publishers looking over your shoulder."
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"With all due respect, sir, being monetarily compensated for fanfic isn’t a “better deal.” Gift culture has is own rewards—development of friendships, positive feedback, infectious ideas—and most of us delight in subverting the social standard and corporate norm. Making a deal at all would be selling our souls to the very devils we’re out to get."
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"And it’s because of this fact–that the majority of fic is the won’t-ever-make-it-to-canon variety–that I think this venture will ultimately fail. Yes, some fic writers may decide that writing canon-approved tie-in stories for the equivalent of a few bucks and a pat on the back is a swell deal. Meanwhile, the rest of us are going to sit over here writing kinky OT3s and ancient-Rome AUs and 26 pages of backstory on Soldier #3.

In short: most of us aren’t doing this because we want to copy what the original creators are doing, or piss on their territory. We’re just interacting with something we love in a way that involves us on a deeper level than just sitting, slack-jawed while a single story plays out."
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"The idea of reading only fanfic with non-canon ‘ships, Alternative Universes, fusions, crossovers, etc. because “if I want the show, I’d watch the show, not read fic” is actually a fairly new one in media fandom. I’ve always figured it’s due to the internet accelerating the average lifespan of the creation and consumption of fanworks. Instead of getting ‘zines at cons like Revelcon or MediaWest once a year, or through the post, now we log into LJ or Tumblr or AO3 the second an episode ends, and find post-ep codas and missing scenes and fix-it fic, etc. from a MUCH larger pool of fans than before.

We’re also much more forgiving of stories being made “canon-fodder” during the writing process, because the source keeps chugging merrily along while novellas and novels and series of novels get written and edited and posted."
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"I read fanfic, and I read professional writing, and I’ve written fanfic, and I’ve also written things that I thought might one day be something I could get published. And one thing I noticed was that, while fanfic and fiction have a lot in common, there are differences between them that simply don’t translate well. There are things I’ve written easily in fanfic that I wouldn’t write if I was trying to get published. There’s a whole…tone to the fanfic genre as a whole that doesn’t necessarily sync well to professional writing, and it’s not just about erotica, although erotica is one area where it’s most pronounced (I tend to skip sex scenes in books, but I’ll willingly read them in fanfic, and I do think that that’s to do with the difference in tone.)

The thing that makes them different, I think, is intimacy. Fanfic is largely written by women, and I think maybe that’s helped set the tone for a lot of it — but there’s this kind of willingness to explore the characters, to see them vulnerable, and to quote Ursula Vernon, “fan fiction, particularly the freaky and occasionally slashy stuff, has made an agreement with itself to suspend shame”. And I know for sure that when I read published novels…yes, you can get into the characters head, yes, you can see them broken-down, but there’s some things that I don’t like to read there because it feels embarrassing, like I’ve seen too much of a stranger’s private life. And I can’t explain exactly why that dichotomy exists, but…fandom is built on the intimate and the vulnerable and frequently the whimsical. And there’s this sense that that kind of thing simply wouldn’t work well if you try to drag it out into publication, because it isn’t very…well-armoured, for lack of a better word. Fanfic is something that has to be sought-out, as opposed to being on display."

all from http://whatever.scalzi.com/2013/05/22/amazons-kindle-worlds-instant-thoughts/
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china_shop From: china_shop Date: May 29th, 2013 10:39 pm (UTC) (Link)
I love that last one. Very thoughtful -- I need to ponder it for a while wrt my current WIP.

Thanks for posting these. :-)
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